ࡱ> IKH` +bjbjss .8#````  0     0 0 0 0 0 0 0$t1h3-0  -0``  B0 X`8  0 0n,. `; > (- 0X000-h4f fh4@.h4.` Z= @} 4 5 -0-0 0   `````` Ӱɴý Academic Senate Draft Minutes 9-25-06 Room 222 3:00-5 p.m. Present: Alex Sample, Pam Perfumo, Mark Lewis, Brendan Brown, Brad Nash, Cindy McGrath, Michael Norris, Jessie Ochoa, Phil Gottlieb, Erich Holtmann, Ginny Buttermore, Estelle Davi, Scott Cabral, Barbara Austin, Laura Bernell, Bill Fracisco. II. Public Comment Lilly Espinosa, Student Services Instructional Support Coordinator EOP&S, announces that the annual New Leaf Conference for the people of the community to get together and discuss equity. This year the conference will be held on Friday, November 3rd at Ӱɴý. The theme for the conference is Liberating minds Liberating Society. Elaine Brown from the Black Panther Party will be speaking; there will be an art exhibit, spoken word, a dance performance, and other seminars. III. Senate Announcements SGC: CSOD Professional Development is looking for three faculty volunteers. TAG is short on classified staff for IT. TAG has been charged with a tech plan revision by SGC. Planning Committee is looking at updating a master plan document in order to get new buildings and funding. There are spots for three faculty members on the committee. Tutoring Committee is planning on surveying students. Students come to the committee asking for more equity in tutoring. Key classes need tutors. DGC: Self evaluation FSCC is adding a new grade: military withdraw. Evaluation of foreign transcripts for faculty equivalencies is a concern. Additional companies that evaluate foreign transcripts are in the community but not yet approved by the District. Enrollment Management: no report Student Services: In the process of reformatting student learning objectives. Distance Ed. Committee: no report. Matriculation: no report. IV. Minutes Approved 5/15/06 Minutes approved. 14-0-0 9/11/06 Minutes approved. 14-0-0 V. Agenda Approved Changes to the agenda: Appointments to Consent Calendar: We have people that want to be appointed to the District Study Abroad Committee. Marie is not going to be able to meet with us about Item B., California Community College Transfer: Recommended Guidelines; we will be discussing Course Renumbering instead. Agenda Approved. 14-0-0 VI. Agenda Items Consent Calendar: P. Perfumo, M.Snell, and J. Stein have all been appointed to Professional Development. The Academic Senate is making a request for information as to why CSOD was disbanded. M. Norris has been appointed to the ASCCC Plenary. J. Saito, K. Alexander, and N. Whitman have all been appointed to the District Study Abroad Committee. No appointments have been made to District Staff Development. Course Renumbering: District wide course renumbering has been brought up by DVC and CCC. Is this something that we are behind or tentative about? The thought had been raised by DVCs concern with course repeatability, catalog rights, common curriculum, and common course numbering. Months ago the Academic Senate had promised to come up with course numbers in line with 100s for freshmen and 200s for sophomores. The Academic Senate was supposed to have this done by the end of December, however, The Academic Senate should not create a new numbering system until it is decided whether or not there is going to be district wide course renumbering. Common course numbers would be student friendly. Common course numbers would lead to issues with course hours/units and curriculum. There may even be union issues with contractual pay. Course renumbering is more complex than it seems. These issues should be addressed anyway. Course renumbering will affect us. Catalog rights are a Title 5 issue. Catalog rights are the rights that a student has to declare the catalog of the first year that he or she attended the school, or the catalog of the year that he or she is graduating. When renumbering, the courses that have more units than other similar courses can be given different numbers. Multiple W Policies for Bio 40, 45, 50: This was not a management driven process. The biology area has been confronting management for years about not being able to accommodate all of the students that want to take these courses. The biology instructors feel extremely exasperated because students show up that would like to take these classes that are more than qualified and we have to tell them, Were sorry, we have a lab class, we can only accommodate 34-35 students maximum, because our labs cant seat any more people than that. Other courses that we teach, like our intro courses, we dont really mind students continually repeating. However, anatomy, physiology, and micro are traditionally taken by juniors at four-year universities. The biology department keeps seeing the same students continually taking and dropping out of these classes, and there is no room to let the new students in. The people in the biology department eventually started sending the students to management. Management began to see the problem and decided that they would try to take on the battle for the biology department and institute the multiple W policy. The Academic Senate decided that the management shouldnt be able to implement this new policy without first going through the Academic Senate. The W policy was the faculties thinking. The multiple W policy would simply apply the same rules for repeatability for Ws as it currently does for Ds and Fs. How will this help? Students that are repeatedly not doing well in these courses need some type of intervention. The students need to talk to a counselor or a dean. If the student doesnt rectify the problem that is preventing him or her from completing the class, then he or she is not ready to take that class again. Maybe there is a larger issue for the students? It is a lot of the same students that are continually taking Ws. This happens because of different reasons: jobs, taking too many classes, not yet prepared for the volume of material required. If someone has already dropped the class twice, than the biology department takes the stance that that student should have some kind of intervention before that student can enroll in that same class. About how many students are doing this, taking the classes more than three times? How many of those students eventually succeed? We found seventeen people with two or more Ws. None of those students passed this semester. There are some students that do fix the problem, but most of the students do not. What if there was a prerequisite in order to take these classes? The biology department would have to go through a lot in order to require a prerequisite. In order to make prerequisites for these classes, other schools would have to do the same. It cannot be done unilaterally. It is even more difficult to add a prerequisite that is outside of the department. The easiest way would be to look for comparables at four-year schools. The problem is that most four year schools separate their pre-nursing classes from their pre-medical classes. It is difficult to find comparables. The nursing students already have too many classes to add any prerequisites. We are trying to compromise with the nursing program. Is there an action that will be taken with the counselors or the dean or will this just be a rubber stamp kind of thing? The current form for repeatability does not include an action item. The form is used when a student would like to repeat a class after receiving a substandard grade. The form will be revised for Ws and the details will be worked out later. The deans would contact the department when something comes up. It will not be a rubber stamp kind of thing. The new W policy will not solve the problem of impaction; however, it will help new students get in to these classes. These are extremely expensive classes. How many new classes will the department offer when the building is complete? Maybe two of one class and one of another, maybe another one the following year. The faculty is short handed; we are in check by cost. We asked for data on which groups were negatively impacted, we ended up with a list of eight students that was from the wrong year. I dont see where ethnicity is an issue. Is this a problem for nursing students? The State Chancellor has a formula that is based on GPA, and the number of Ws a students has. Any number of Ws will lower a students score. Data was reviewed for the last three years, and the program does not impact any group more than any other. Can we put the students that continually drop on a waiting list during registration? No, the system doesnt create a waiting list until the classes are full. Can we delay the students registration? No, we are not capable of delaying a students registration by course. This discussion can be brought up in the next meeting as an action item. Senate Review and Evaluation: Look over the evaluation forms; we will discuss them next meeting. Will we reuse this form? VII. 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